Baba Kilindi Iyi

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I’m joined this episode with the creators behind EntheoMagus, Cody Noconi, Brandon Crockett, and Alex Criddle. EntheoMagus is a short documentary exploring the indications that entheogens, or psychedelics, were used in early Mormonism, particularly in the group experiences in Kirtland, OH. We discuss Cody, Brandon, and Alex’s backgrounds, where they stand with regard to Mormonism, and their motivation behind this project.

We also discuss the basics behind psychedelics and what is known as the mystical experience, a state of consciousness that is accessible both through endogenous (without substances) as well as exogenous (with substances) means.

I ask them the spiritual implications behind psychedelics producing this experience, as well as the implications for Mormonism, if this is true. Many view the idea that psychedelics were used to be discounting the spirituality behind Mormonism, or to be cheapening spiritual experiences, but we discuss how that isn’t the case.

EntheoMagus is a short film, more of a proof of concept on the road to the goal of a more involved production. It will be shown in Salt Lake City, UTon 4/27/24, 4/28/24, and 4/29/24 and in Portland, OR on 5/11/24. Get your tickets below.

Links
EntheoMagus Website – https://seerstonedproductions.com
Alex Criddle’s Website – https://alexcriddle.com

Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins:
https://youtu.be/5YBeMrR1seM
https://mysticsandmuons.substack.com/p/mormonism-psychedelics-quantum-physics

Here for the science and spirituality? Check out my episodes with Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup:
https://youtu.be/k1myPJHr9vg
https://youtu.be/05o6YbgzEjs
https://youtu.be/s4iRX3o8VRY

Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com!

Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:57 Brandon Crockett
07:01 Alex Criddle
11:44 Cody Noconi
16:28 The Mystical Experience
22:09 Interpreting Spiritual or Mystical Experiences
25:14 Our Mind as a Filter
27:06 Cross Cultural Mystical Experiences
29:23 Taking a Holistic Approach to Understanding Mystical Experiences with Science and Spirituality
35:30 Implications for Mormonism if Entheogens/Psychedelics were used
38:07 Psychedelics and Spirituality, The Good Friday Experiment
42:53 Clark Heinrich’s Mystical Experience with Amanita Muscaria
46:41 The Problems with Dismissing Psychedelics as Hallucinations or Shortcuts
49:51 Gabe’s Endogenous Mystical Experience
51:53 Can We Trust Mystical/Psychedelic Experiences?
55:19 Consensus Reality and Interpreting Psychedelic Experiences
01:02:22 Recontextualizing and Finding Meaning in Mormonism
01:04:57 Accessing Revelation and Mystical Experiences
01:07:00 The Problem with Prophets and the Shamanic Initiation Crisis
01:10:00 The Importance of Recognizing your Perspective and Bias
01:11:09 How Objective are Psychedelic Experiences?
01:13:28 Rupert Spira and Dreams as a Model for the Intersubjective Nature of Reality
01:19:09 Does it Matter if Joseph Smith used Psychedelics/Entheogens?
01:21:59 Folk Magic, the Occult, and Substances to Alter Consciousness
01:26:11 Is there Evidence of Entheogens in Early Mormonism?
01:30:06 EntheoMagus

Comments

@jamesodin8751 says:

April 20, 2024 at 3:02 am

Omg!! I've been dosing on mushrooms for approximately 2 months ,,since my 1st trip what I saw was of Hindu origin, 2 days ago tripping a voice repeated you are the full embodiment of Shakti an
Shiva !!

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@kylepithecus says:

April 20, 2024 at 3:26 am

As an ex-Mormon and ex-Atheist who had a life changing spiritual transformation on psychedelics this is very relevant to my interests!

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@louccideavon7116 says:

April 20, 2024 at 3:29 am

Absolutely amazing podcast and content!

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